Faramir and eowyn relationship poems

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Lord of the Rings - Het Pairing - Faramir, son of Denethor and Éowyn, shield- maiden of Rohan | See more ideas about Lord of the rings, Middle Earth and. Éowyn was a shieldmaiden of Rohan, daughter of Éomund and Theodwyn, After her marriage to Faramir she was called the Lady of Ithilien (in contrast to. The relationship between Faramir and Boromir, who was five years elder of the brothers, grew much closer and greater in love. . Faramir and Éowyn walked together in the gardens nearly every day, and he learned from Merry Quotes Edit.

As Faramir says, "You desired to have the love of the Lord Aragorn. Because he is high and puissant and you wished to have renown and glory and to be lifted far above the mean things that crawl on the earth. And as a great captain may seem to a young soldier he seemed to you admirable. First of all I would like to say that I like Rhiannon's work,especially the way she proves why Faramir is the better decision for Eowyn.

Bur I have one question concerning this pasage. Having in mind the hard life Eowyn had,can we state that her love towards Aragorn was a kind of selfish one? She had very hard life and had suffered many times till she met Aragorn. And he was the perfect choice. He could give her the admiration she wanted,the status she thought she deserved,the glory she desired.

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She saw in him an opportunity to have all these things and that's why she felt in love,not because it was a true love. Aiwendil2 As for the essay: I agree with most of what you said, Rhiannon, and I think your analysis is good. I agree with Gil-Galad [Edit: Sorry, Gil-Galad, I read your post too quickly - I actually disagree with you] that her love for Aragorn was not exactly selfish; but then I don't think that was explicitly suggested in the essay.

faramir and eowyn relationship poems

A very good point, and well said. To be honest, I was always a little uneasy about the resolution of Eowyn's character arc.

It seemed to me that she did a noble thing, defying sexual stereotypes and going into war, only to be told, and to accept, that her place is not as a warrior but as a "healer" and lover of "all things that grow and are not barren" - in other words that a woman's place is in the home healing and nurturing, not in battle. This bothered me quite a bit. But I think you have eased my mind.

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She is not supposed to be a healer and nurturer because she is a woman, but because all people, men and women, should be healers and nurturers rather than warriors though it is an unfortunate inevitability that some will have to be warriors. She became a shieldmaiden only because this was the only way, at the time, to be accepted on equal terms with the important people in her life including but not limited to Aragorn ; having met Faramir, that is no longer true, and there is no need for her to continue as a warrior.

faramir and eowyn relationship poems

Last edited by Aiwendil2 on at It certainly was, in that it was a 'self-centric' love; however, there was at least an element of a 'true' love, because it continued after the point where he would have been an 'opportunity', or a gain for her. Tolkien states very clearly that Eowyn did love Aragorn, in Letter "I do not think Eowyn's feelings for Aragorn really changed much; and when he was revealed as so lofty a figure, in descent and office, she was able to go on loving and admiring him.

That Eowyn's love--or at least her mis-interpretation of it--is a direct result of her situation is to me without question. I am not saying that sh didn't love Aragorn,but that one of the reasons to love him was her desire for glory and high status.

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But yes I do agree she loved him but as you said Yet Eowyn's love for Aragorn, though real, is not truly a romantic love. Rhiannon I'm sorry if I mis-interpreted your question; my answer, at least, hinges on my belief that pure selfishness negates love. It follows then that Eowyn's love couldn't have been purely selfish, though it was in part, because the unselfish part of her love for Aragorn continues, as clearly stated by Tolkien. I'm not saying that her love was completely selfish,but that there were some grains of selfishness in it.

Do you think she was ever attracted to another man? She was not very young Rhiannon Originally posted by Eriol And finally a question for Rhiannon. Since Tolkien doesn't say, this is entirely my own opinion which is biased and quite possibly me projecting myself on the characterbut no, I don't think so.

Certainly not love; attraction, very possibly, since women are just as guilty of the carnal eye as men all of that stuff about the fairer, more graceful sex is nonsense. Or because I do not go, and you desire still to be near me.

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And maybe for both these reasons, and you yourself cannot choose between them. It is remarkable partly because it displays a closeness between father and son that is sadly very rare.

Also because of its depth of insight. I think that most men on reading this letter would would wish they had enjoyed this closeness with their own father or that they could achieve it with their sons.

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Faramir has known this wound deeply but Tolkien, who never knew his own father shows that it need not be passed on to the next generation. In the letter Tolkien writes about the Western romantic idea of courtly love in which a great lady would enjoy the devotion and admiration of young men, often expressed through poetry or deeds that would prove their love. A physical expression of the love was considered unacceptable although the two great Arthurian love stories of Guinevere and Lancelot and of Tristan and Isolde show that such relationships could move disastrously from the idealised form to the physical form.

In his letter Tolkien also notes that to idealise a woman, to grant her some kind of divinity, does her no good at all. The woman is another fallen human being with a soul in peril.